Persist and do not let up. The machinations by this corrupt agency must be uncovered and rectified. Better an innocent is removed than the cancer allowed to metastasize.
Totally contrary to the American system of justice which is grounded in the British Common Law, which has long erred on the side of protecting innocence. We presume an accused person's innocence until they are proven guilty. As the preeminent English jurist William Blackstone wrote,"[B]etter that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer." This principle can also be found in religious texts and in the writings of the American Founders. Benjamin Franklin went further arguing "it is better a hundred guilty persons should escape than one innocent person should suffer."
The statement you make coincides with those made by Che Guevara and 20th century communist movements in China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. (CATO Institute) In the CATO Institute 2016 Criminal Justice Survey, the survey found that a majority (60%) of Americans say it would be worse to have 20,000 innocent people in prison, while 40% say it would be worse to have 20,000 people who are actually guilty but not in prison. Majorities across demographic and political groups prioritize protecting the innocent. African Americans (60%), Caucasians (61%), and Hispanics (55%) agree imprisoning innocent people is worse than allowing guilty people go free. Majorities of Democrats (64%), independents (60%), and Republicans (55%) all agree that it's worse to imprison 20,000 innocent people than allow 20,000 guilty people go free. However, Democrats are slightly more likely than Republicans to agree.
It's not the average shoe leather agent that should be looked at, it's the political class who inhabit the Hoover Building that bear scrutiny.
You don't know until everyone is questioned. When the brass won't comply that makes it harder on everyone who assisted. They are then forced to remain silent when many would volunteer to tell how they were used in the J6 process.
No one has said they are guilty. No one said all will be indicted. Your system (the one currently being used) can't work for justice if those in it will not allow the process to happen in the first place. A list of names is the start of that fair process.
Sam is right as usual. The wrong people have taken their version of the high road which contradicts a legal practice within the justice system.
32 years ago today, the ATF launched what would become the Waco massacre, resulting in the death of over 80 Americans. The FIB came in to "Clean Up" the ATF's bungled, unjustified raid on American citizens. The County Sheriff said he could have spoken to Koresh at any time without any difficulty.
So Much for the "Shoe Leather" Jack Booted Feral Polezi Thugs. WTFU
It is going to get very interesting. No doubt the Dem fan club media will apply its propaganda on readers and viewers. However, their followers now are mainly empty shells as the thoughtful have moved on.
I wonder how the FBI agent that masterminded the plot to kidnap Gov Whitmer and was then promoted to lead the D.C. office is reacting. He was in deep.
I have a friend who took early retirement from the bureau because he refused to break his oath for Wray or anyone else in the top brass, of whom he said was where the corruption lies. He was being required to plant evidence and arrest people who were clearly innocent. He said that many of his peers also took early retirement or took other assignments if they weren’t eligible for retirement. He says that most of the agents on the ground are patriots and were vehemently opposed to what went down on J6. If he’s right, which he’s a straight up fellow, then there are a lot of people still in the agency who will turn evidence of Patel gets in there. Let’s hope so.
Has any government employee been dismissed? I read about a lot of people being placed on paid leave, in government parlance more paid vacation. The video of Glenn Kirschner, what a pompous ass, is exactly what is wrong within our justice system. He saw no wrong in employees being ordered to investigate a former President of the United States on what any common sense investigator would immediately recognize as a retaliatory witch hunt. He probably revels in the fact that crowds of supporters were professionally infiltrated and agitated to enter a restricted area on January 6th. And of course planting explosive devices in public right of ways as insurance in case the planned riots didn't occur was fine also. After all, there are dangerous patriots attending school board meetings resisting pornography in libraries and life loving religious zealots peacefully praying outside pregnancy ending clinics. These are the dangers Mr. Kirschner is concerned about, not the jack booted thugs that carry out the actions against citizens exercising their God given rights enumerated in the Constitution. Please don't call me friend Mr. Kirschner, my friends don't carry out unlawful orders simply to collect a paycheck, promotion and a pension. In the words of Reverend Wright, "The chickens have come home to roost". P S how many takes are required to dramatically retrieve your glasses and park them once again outside your coat pocket? Phony all the way.
However, by the standard of the letter, every lab technician down at Quantico that touched evidence from J6 should be walked out of the lab. And what about the folks at the Fingerprint Division in West Virginia? Does every fingerprint tech get walked out of the building because they supported the collection of evidence for J6? And last, what about the folks at the FBI REEF? It's one thing to look at the political class in the Hoover Building. It's another thing to send home Agent Smith from the Miami Field Office who was put on orders to support the Mar-a-Lago event.
My but you jump to conclusion. It is a list of names that is being denied.
It appears you believe that each will be rounded-up under gun point in the wee hours of the morning and hauled off to jail. How about a phone call then ends with just following orders sir. Who said they would all be sent home? This is not the Biden admin who went to war on anyone not bending the knee.
No Blue Flu for the FIB Aparacheks ??? A Few Agents have honored their Oaths to the Constitution. Most like Good Germand just Followed Orders. Nuremberg Verdicts Applicable.
Persist and do not let up. The machinations by this corrupt agency must be uncovered and rectified. Better an innocent is removed than the cancer allowed to metastasize.
Totally contrary to the American system of justice which is grounded in the British Common Law, which has long erred on the side of protecting innocence. We presume an accused person's innocence until they are proven guilty. As the preeminent English jurist William Blackstone wrote,"[B]etter that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer." This principle can also be found in religious texts and in the writings of the American Founders. Benjamin Franklin went further arguing "it is better a hundred guilty persons should escape than one innocent person should suffer."
The statement you make coincides with those made by Che Guevara and 20th century communist movements in China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. (CATO Institute) In the CATO Institute 2016 Criminal Justice Survey, the survey found that a majority (60%) of Americans say it would be worse to have 20,000 innocent people in prison, while 40% say it would be worse to have 20,000 people who are actually guilty but not in prison. Majorities across demographic and political groups prioritize protecting the innocent. African Americans (60%), Caucasians (61%), and Hispanics (55%) agree imprisoning innocent people is worse than allowing guilty people go free. Majorities of Democrats (64%), independents (60%), and Republicans (55%) all agree that it's worse to imprison 20,000 innocent people than allow 20,000 guilty people go free. However, Democrats are slightly more likely than Republicans to agree.
It's not the average shoe leather agent that should be looked at, it's the political class who inhabit the Hoover Building that bear scrutiny.
You don't know until everyone is questioned. When the brass won't comply that makes it harder on everyone who assisted. They are then forced to remain silent when many would volunteer to tell how they were used in the J6 process.
No one has said they are guilty. No one said all will be indicted. Your system (the one currently being used) can't work for justice if those in it will not allow the process to happen in the first place. A list of names is the start of that fair process.
Sam is right as usual. The wrong people have taken their version of the high road which contradicts a legal practice within the justice system.
32 years ago today, the ATF launched what would become the Waco massacre, resulting in the death of over 80 Americans. The FIB came in to "Clean Up" the ATF's bungled, unjustified raid on American citizens. The County Sheriff said he could have spoken to Koresh at any time without any difficulty.
So Much for the "Shoe Leather" Jack Booted Feral Polezi Thugs. WTFU
I suppose the FIB "Swatters" were just "Obeying Orders" like "Good German SS" ???
It Is the Average Shoe Leather Agent that Shut Up and Went Along to Get Along.
If they couldn't Obey their Oath to the Constitution they could have Resigned. A handful of agents did, btw. "A Handful" out of Thousands, Comrade.
It is going to get very interesting. No doubt the Dem fan club media will apply its propaganda on readers and viewers. However, their followers now are mainly empty shells as the thoughtful have moved on.
I wonder how the FBI agent that masterminded the plot to kidnap Gov Whitmer and was then promoted to lead the D.C. office is reacting. He was in deep.
I have a friend who took early retirement from the bureau because he refused to break his oath for Wray or anyone else in the top brass, of whom he said was where the corruption lies. He was being required to plant evidence and arrest people who were clearly innocent. He said that many of his peers also took early retirement or took other assignments if they weren’t eligible for retirement. He says that most of the agents on the ground are patriots and were vehemently opposed to what went down on J6. If he’s right, which he’s a straight up fellow, then there are a lot of people still in the agency who will turn evidence of Patel gets in there. Let’s hope so.
Has any government employee been dismissed? I read about a lot of people being placed on paid leave, in government parlance more paid vacation. The video of Glenn Kirschner, what a pompous ass, is exactly what is wrong within our justice system. He saw no wrong in employees being ordered to investigate a former President of the United States on what any common sense investigator would immediately recognize as a retaliatory witch hunt. He probably revels in the fact that crowds of supporters were professionally infiltrated and agitated to enter a restricted area on January 6th. And of course planting explosive devices in public right of ways as insurance in case the planned riots didn't occur was fine also. After all, there are dangerous patriots attending school board meetings resisting pornography in libraries and life loving religious zealots peacefully praying outside pregnancy ending clinics. These are the dangers Mr. Kirschner is concerned about, not the jack booted thugs that carry out the actions against citizens exercising their God given rights enumerated in the Constitution. Please don't call me friend Mr. Kirschner, my friends don't carry out unlawful orders simply to collect a paycheck, promotion and a pension. In the words of Reverend Wright, "The chickens have come home to roost". P S how many takes are required to dramatically retrieve your glasses and park them once again outside your coat pocket? Phony all the way.
Can We/Me/You at Least Get 3 Patriots POW's out of the Feral Gulag ???
whoisjeremybrown.com
And
https://www.ammoland.com/2025/02/two-cases-that-pam-bondi-should-revisit/
Going to be a 6 year political and cultural street brawl
However, by the standard of the letter, every lab technician down at Quantico that touched evidence from J6 should be walked out of the lab. And what about the folks at the Fingerprint Division in West Virginia? Does every fingerprint tech get walked out of the building because they supported the collection of evidence for J6? And last, what about the folks at the FBI REEF? It's one thing to look at the political class in the Hoover Building. It's another thing to send home Agent Smith from the Miami Field Office who was put on orders to support the Mar-a-Lago event.
My but you jump to conclusion. It is a list of names that is being denied.
It appears you believe that each will be rounded-up under gun point in the wee hours of the morning and hauled off to jail. How about a phone call then ends with just following orders sir. Who said they would all be sent home? This is not the Biden admin who went to war on anyone not bending the knee.
Well stated Shelley.
How about Convicting Jeremy Brown with FIB planted grenades ??? Just "Shoe Leather" FIB Agents doing their jobs.
How about the FIB agents sniffing in Melania Trumps's lingere drawer??? Well that is probably more acceptable & typical.
Your "straw man" arguments are also typical of Bolshevik democRats.
No Blue Flu for the FIB Aparacheks ??? A Few Agents have honored their Oaths to the Constitution. Most like Good Germand just Followed Orders. Nuremberg Verdicts Applicable.